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Poster: Slewfoot_2012 Date: Sep 9, 2012 3:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

Get it while it's hot before it's possibly taken down due to the Dave's Picks release (fingers crossed that doesn't happen as it certainly shouldn't).

Another great example of a Matrix from the Wall of Sound. Hopefully all shows from 74 where there is a SBD and AUD combo will be made into a Matrix someday. Some of my personal favorites. Thanks Kevin!

http://archive.org/details/gd1974-07-31.mtx.tobin.121836.flac16

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Sep 10, 2012 6:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

The sound is indeed excellent on this one. However, for me a big drawback is that on the AUD there is a dude clapping that sounds like he is standing inside my ear. A touch too distracting. Other than that, and for many this will not be a big deal, it is fantastic.


Side Note: Due to some temporary med issues with the mom we had the baby home with us over the weekend. Ahhhh, the days of 2 hours sleep and smell of fetid dingo's kidneys eminating on a regular basis. Good thing she's so damned cute.

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Poster: Slewfoot_2012 Date: Sep 10, 2012 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

Congrats on the little one!

It's funny when some AUD and Matrix shows have "that guy" on it. I recall the 9-19-90 Matrix has a conversation going on in between songs between two guys. One of them (taper perhaps?) asks a guy to settle down a bit. The other guy basically says nope as he likes to hoot and holler and have a good time and that's his way of doing it. Brings me back to overhearing similar conversations at shows back in the day.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Sep 10, 2012 11:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: That Guy

You bring up an excellent point. So many fine AUD's are lessened by the presence of "That Guy". Also, to be fair, I've heard a few tapes featuring "That Girl". It is for this reason alone that many folks out there refuse to embrace AUD's. And as you say, I also had quite a few shows I attended negatively impacted by "That Guy". Typically he took the form of an out of place frat boy who had injested WAAAAAY too many pharmaceuticals.
I believe the most famous "That Guy" caught on tape would have to be the Woo-Hoo guy from the Palladium show. He certainly set the standard by which all future "That Guy's" are measured.

I suppose we could also have a category for video "That Guy". Althouh the Naked Pole Guy from Veneta could never be topped. Imagine bugging at a fantastic outdoor show and look up only to see some guy's junk waving in the sun atop a pole. Pretty sure it would be tough to erase that image and refocus on the music.

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Poster: Lum Edwards Date: Sep 10, 2012 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Guy

Yeah That Guy screwed up alot of fine pink floyd auds too..
Theres one where some dude says "Oh Man Thats a Classic" at the start of every song.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Sep 10, 2012 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: That Guy

Another good point. I believe that one of the secrets of being a truly stand-out "That Guy" is consistency. Find a tag line, or theme, and stick with it. Anticipating the annoyance that is coming can have the same effect as Chinese water torture. Like your "Classic" example and the "Woo-Hoo" guy, I recall a show I attended where a dude seated close to me would scream "Mr. Charlie!!!" during each break between songs. After the first 3 or 4 tunes when it became obvious that this was going to occur for the rest of the night, my brain started to almost focus on this individual to the point of distraction.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Sep 10, 2012 12:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

99% of the time I love Tobin's work, but this one didn't really do it for me. I was excited when this aud came around not too long ago, and it's good in it's own way, but something about the combination here just doesn't sound all that great to me. Still, it was a noble effort (and it doesn't totally suck or anything, I'm just saying that for me these sources don't seem to make the best matrix), and much appreciated.

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Poster: Slewfoot_2012 Date: Sep 10, 2012 11:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

I agree it's not the best sounding Matrix from the Wall of Sound as it doesn't seem to have the warmth some others have. I believe the AUD recording was made off to Jerry's side based on Jim Anderson photos I've seen from the show which are mostly in that area. Perhaps not being head-on had something to do with it. At the end of the day, it's a Matrix from nearly 40 years ago so it passes muster on that alone!

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Sep 10, 2012 4:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

*doesn't seem to have the warmth some others have*

it doesnt, but it does have a lot of muscle. sounds great to me

thx for the rec. excellent mtx, mind blowing truckin > mlbj > sj > wr segue........

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Sep 9, 2012 4:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

I'm up to my ears in 7/31/74. A Miller, the MTX and Dave's...whew! I guess u can't have enuff Dead

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Sep 9, 2012 6:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

From your review:

"Kudos to Kevin and lets hope there's more where that came, 5-19-74, 6-28-74, 8-5-74 and 8-6-74 perhaps? :^)"

An 8-6-74 matrix will never see the light of day here since it's part of DP 31, but I've got a great one on my ipod!

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Poster: Slewfoot_2012 Date: Sep 9, 2012 6:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

Now that's just not fair! :^) If you're in the mood for a nice bottle of wine (I work in the wine business) feel free to send over a copy!

I think it's fine for a Matrix to be made from a SBD that was not the actual official release, just what has been previously circulating. At least that's what I heard from someone who makes Matrix shows. 7-31-74 and 6-26-74 were both releases and Matrix copies just came on board this Summer.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 10, 2012 6:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new Matrix from Wall of Sound 1974

It is fine for such a matrix to be made, however sbds of shows that have been commercially released are usually not available for streaming here so you are both correct. It could be out there but might not be available here.